Guest contributor: Bill and Dave

The Sweet Sixteen! Here They are…the Best Writin’ Schools in the Country

categories: Cocktail Hour

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Here it is, folks.  You voted and your vote counts.  And now we ask you to vote again on the comments page of this post.  Only one vote per person per school this round please.  But if you like you can vote for two schools, yours and another.  This next round of voting will determine the final 2!  Because how long can we really keep this up?

Observant fans will note that some of the results make no sense.  Teams won that were never in the bracket, teams lost and then reappeared elsewhere, etc… Well, what can we say?  In the spirit of Seth Abramson, we have decided to follow a logic all our own.  (And we wanted to make sure that the top 16 vote getters made it in.)

For more about the match-ups and to vote, keep going:

Iowa vs. George Mason

The top-seeded Iowa barely squeaked by a scrappy Florida Atlantic squad, and now face the write-in George Mason, the Washington, D.C. upstart, and their hordes of rabid fans.

Arizona vs. Arizona State

This in-state rivalry is getting ugly.  And bloody.  The two battled to a virtual tie in the first round, inspiring us to throw out the rules and pit them against each other again in the Sweet Sixteen.  Sheriff Arpaio, where are you?

Penn State vs. Alabama

Who doesn’t love plucky Penn State, fighting on valiantly even though their program is going into the crapper?  Meanwhile Alabama dominated the early rounds, the Tide garnering more votes, and rah-rah spirit, than any other school.  They also used the word “dick” a lot.  Does that mean that they are the country’s best writing school?  You decide.

The New School vs. San Diego State

The New School surprised everyone by digging in for tough wins, even with the crowd chanting “What’s so new about you, what’s so new about you, you were founded in 1919, boo-hoo!”  Their curious alliance with The Ohio State University team (it’s the THE, said retiring great OSU coach Lee K. Abbott) no doubt helped their game.  San Diego State, no article to speak of, came out of nowhere to dominate, and only the one incident to mar their performance.  You know what I’m talking about, Staties.  Also, our niece Rosalie (yes, Bill and Dave’s is an uncle, and many times over), attends SDSU as an undergrad, really our only chance at some nepotism here.

Vermont College vs. Goddard

From the land of Saint Bernie Sanders, also gods Ben and Jerry, a blistering rivalry between two fine low-res programs in the Green Mountain State.  But fans have found that low-res means hi-intensity!  Brother against brother, sister against sister, this stands to be one of the fiercest face-offs of the century.  And folks, that’s twelve whole years!

Virginia Tech vs. Ashland
Tiny Ashland is winning hearts all over the country, dominating from its rusty berth in post-industrial northern Ohio.  But the bigger, if equally lovable, Virginia Tech, might be sending Cinderella home in a pumpkin driven by rats.

UNCW vs. THE Ohio State University
It’s true that UNCW has the homecourt advantage here, but their performance in the first rounds was tepid.  Now they’ll set out to prove they deserve the name THE University of North Carolina at Wilmington.  And let us not forget where Bill taught for many years: Ohio State.  Can Cocktail Hour survive the strain?

Bowling Green vs. McNeese State

Eleven votes apiece?  That’s a solid matchup.  We suspected some hanging chads on this one, and sure enough, the vote-counting mainframe didn’t know what BGSU stood for.  But what fight from an underlooked organization, and a PhD program too.  Can we talk about McNeese?  There’s no state called McNeese, unless maybe it’s in Ireland!  But coaches Fleury and Taylor have built from the brilliant success of John Wood, and after 30 years in the biz, the McNeese squad rules.   Oh.  Okay.  This just in.  McNeese State is in Louisiana.

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  1. Ryan writes:

    San Diego State

    (by the way, your graphic has UC-San Diego, even though your description has San Diego State in the Sweet 16)

  2. Barry writes:

    Voting for the clear winner of this contest: Alabama.

    I’m just going to quote Farren from earlier in the comments thread: “But actually, seriously, BAMA. The funding is RIDICULOUSLY generous, the department is kind and supportive, you can’t beat FOUR YEARS of writing, MFA’s have the option of teaching NOT ONLY 101 and 102, but creative writing and lit sections. We also have Prison Arts and High School Creative Writing Club programs, we have the AMAZING INCREDIBLE bulwark of experimental lit, the Black Warrior Review–and we publish everywhere all the time. TUSCALOOSA RUNS THIS.”

    • Dave writes:

      That may all be true. But is everyone who goes there crazy? I mean, just knowing them through this blog…..

      • Emma writes:

        Everyone has some crazy in ’em. Bama MFAers are just better at showing off the crazy on the internets. But really, we’re crazy happy here, for all the reasons Farren mentioned.

  3. Barbara Royer writes:

    McNeese State University

  4. Barbara Royer writes:

    McNeese State University, Lake Charles, Louisiana!

  5. Michael Kelsay writes:

    McNeese over BGSU!

  6. Mary Hughes writes:
  7. Kirby writes:
  8. staceyd writes:

    Bowling Green!

  9. BJ writes:
  10. Laura writes:

    Virginia Tech! Go Hokies!

  11. Bri writes:

    Virginia Tech!

    and Goddard.

  12. Jon writes:

    Hold your horses, the elephants are coming! (bama).

  13. Quinn writes:

    Virginia Tech!

  14. Janet writes:
  15. Jenn writes:

    Alabama runs this, y’all.

  16. Cory Paul Harrison writes:

    A. L, A. B, A. M, A. Alabama.

    Seriously, The University of Alabama.

  17. EJ writes:
  18. Brittany Moore writes:

    McNeese State University. Boom.

  19. michael white writes:

    Anyway I vote for the New School. It’s the only MFA with decent pastrami.

  20. Karen Donley-Hayes writes:

    Ashland! If V-Tech gives Ashland “a pumpkin driven by rats,” Ashland will turn it into a coach drawn by an Olympic Combined-Driving Team. Go Ashland!

  21. Chris writes:
  22. Stacy writes:
  23. Erica Meyers writes:

    Rama Jama, Yellow Hammer, my vote goes to Alabama

  24. J writes:
  25. Began writes:

    McNeese & Naropa, School of Disembodied Poetics

    • Bill writes:

      Naropa wins! One vote is all it takes for a place with those kind of connections…

  26. Erica McCreedy writes:

    Let me reiterate: MCNEESE!

  27. Al writes:

    McNeese State University!

  28. Todd writes:

    McNeese State in the Lake Chuck (Louisiana)! The most unique place you’ll ever get a MFA.

  29. Brittany Moore writes:

    McNeese State University! Wonderful program, poised to blow up in a big way!

  30. Jason Dutton writes:

    Ashland University!

  31. William Lusk Coppage writes:

    McNeese. McNeese. McNeese.

  32. smartone writes:

    Arizona State! Alabama!

  33. Julie writes:

    McNeese State U.!!

  34. Matt Tullis writes:

    Ashland and UNCW. Eagles and Seahawks baby. We’re flying to the finals.

  35. Emma writes:

    Alabama! Again! More!

  36. Jeff Muse writes:

    Ashland University!

  37. Jennifer Ochstein writes:

    Ashland University–the little engine that could!

  38. Sarah Wells writes:

    Ashland University goes all-the-WAY!

  39. Know-it-all writes:

    UCSD and SDSU are two different schools.

  40. Bob Cowser writes:

    Ashland! The little program that could

  41. Farren writes:

    BAMA! BAMA! ROLL TIDE!

    But actually, seriously, BAMA. The funding is RIDICULOUSLY generous, the department is kind and supportive, you can’t beat FOUR YEARS of writing, MFA’s have the option of teaching NOT ONLY 101 and 102, but creative writing and lit sections. We also have Prison Arts and High School Creative Writing Club programs, we have the AMAZING INCREDIBLE bulwark of experimental lit, the Black Warrior Review–and we publish everywhere all the time. TUSCALOOSA RUNS THIS.

  42. Mark Neely writes:

    Bama and Ashland

  43. David Sorrell writes:
  44. Chris Coake writes:
  45. Justin writes:

    Yea Alabama! Drown ’em, Tide! Every ‘Bama man’s beside you—hit your stride!

    Alabama.

  46. Nina R. writes:

    Ohio State, Iowa

  47. Herman writes:

    Virginia Tech (mine) and Iowa (everybody’s)

  48. TimD writes:

    The New School University

    The New School University

    The newiest, oldest, and bestest program in all the land.

  49. Erica writes:

    Antioch University Los Angeles! AULA!!

  50. nina writes:

    UNCW. And not sure if we’re still allowed to vote twice, but: UNCW!

    • Bill writes:

      No, you’re not allowed to vote twice! Unless for two different schools…. The science of rankings, you know!