Guest contributor: Bill and Dave

The Sweet Sixteen! Here They are…the Best Writin’ Schools in the Country

categories: Cocktail Hour

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Here it is, folks.  You voted and your vote counts.  And now we ask you to vote again on the comments page of this post.  Only one vote per person per school this round please.  But if you like you can vote for two schools, yours and another.  This next round of voting will determine the final 2!  Because how long can we really keep this up?

Observant fans will note that some of the results make no sense.  Teams won that were never in the bracket, teams lost and then reappeared elsewhere, etc… Well, what can we say?  In the spirit of Seth Abramson, we have decided to follow a logic all our own.  (And we wanted to make sure that the top 16 vote getters made it in.)

For more about the match-ups and to vote, keep going:

Iowa vs. George Mason

The top-seeded Iowa barely squeaked by a scrappy Florida Atlantic squad, and now face the write-in George Mason, the Washington, D.C. upstart, and their hordes of rabid fans.

Arizona vs. Arizona State

This in-state rivalry is getting ugly.  And bloody.  The two battled to a virtual tie in the first round, inspiring us to throw out the rules and pit them against each other again in the Sweet Sixteen.  Sheriff Arpaio, where are you?

Penn State vs. Alabama

Who doesn’t love plucky Penn State, fighting on valiantly even though their program is going into the crapper?  Meanwhile Alabama dominated the early rounds, the Tide garnering more votes, and rah-rah spirit, than any other school.  They also used the word “dick” a lot.  Does that mean that they are the country’s best writing school?  You decide.

The New School vs. San Diego State

The New School surprised everyone by digging in for tough wins, even with the crowd chanting “What’s so new about you, what’s so new about you, you were founded in 1919, boo-hoo!”  Their curious alliance with The Ohio State University team (it’s the THE, said retiring great OSU coach Lee K. Abbott) no doubt helped their game.  San Diego State, no article to speak of, came out of nowhere to dominate, and only the one incident to mar their performance.  You know what I’m talking about, Staties.  Also, our niece Rosalie (yes, Bill and Dave’s is an uncle, and many times over), attends SDSU as an undergrad, really our only chance at some nepotism here.

Vermont College vs. Goddard

From the land of Saint Bernie Sanders, also gods Ben and Jerry, a blistering rivalry between two fine low-res programs in the Green Mountain State.  But fans have found that low-res means hi-intensity!  Brother against brother, sister against sister, this stands to be one of the fiercest face-offs of the century.  And folks, that’s twelve whole years!

Virginia Tech vs. Ashland
Tiny Ashland is winning hearts all over the country, dominating from its rusty berth in post-industrial northern Ohio.  But the bigger, if equally lovable, Virginia Tech, might be sending Cinderella home in a pumpkin driven by rats.

UNCW vs. THE Ohio State University
It’s true that UNCW has the homecourt advantage here, but their performance in the first rounds was tepid.  Now they’ll set out to prove they deserve the name THE University of North Carolina at Wilmington.  And let us not forget where Bill taught for many years: Ohio State.  Can Cocktail Hour survive the strain?

Bowling Green vs. McNeese State

Eleven votes apiece?  That’s a solid matchup.  We suspected some hanging chads on this one, and sure enough, the vote-counting mainframe didn’t know what BGSU stood for.  But what fight from an underlooked organization, and a PhD program too.  Can we talk about McNeese?  There’s no state called McNeese, unless maybe it’s in Ireland!  But coaches Fleury and Taylor have built from the brilliant success of John Wood, and after 30 years in the biz, the McNeese squad rules.   Oh.  Okay.  This just in.  McNeese State is in Louisiana.

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  1. Carol Allen writes:

    You will learn more at VCFA than anywhere in the country, and nowhere else has such a famous wine pit for after hours. This is a no-brainer! Carol

    • Bill writes:

      I liked the talent night–lots of singing and carrying on, great!

    • Linden McN writes:

      Vermont College of the Finest Art around, hands down and glasses raised. Hard work, tough love and full of heart.

  2. LM writes:

    Go Buckeyes! Ohio State! Okay, maybe not for the utter win. Vermont gets that.

  3. Amy writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts, baby!!!

  4. Clint McCown writes:

    Vermont! A thousand times Vermont!

  5. Jessica Leader writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts, the finest grad school in all the land!

  6. Melissa writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts – VCFA. btw, besides all the glory in the universe, any chance the winner gets a free pen? A sticker that says A Whole Mess Of People Shamelessly Voted For Us And We Won — (awmopsvfuaww, for short)?

    • Bill writes:

      The prizes are a closely held secret, and will be bestowed at AWP Boston, 2012. At the Bill and Dave’s table!

  7. BJ writes:

    McNeese MFA program.

  8. rach h writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!

  9. JP writes:

    Quit dickin’ around y’all. We all know Alabama is King.

  10. Janet Fox writes:

    Vermont College!

  11. Kelly Barson writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts! That’s where the superstars train! Go team VCFA! Write on!

  12. Megan writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts all the way!!! Shove it, Goddard!

    • Bill writes:

      Oop. Insults give a point to the opponent. Maybe the only point in this case…

  13. Brian writes:

    Vermont College!

  14. David writes:

    Bowling Green, all the way.

  15. alex writes:

    Alabama louder than yo face.

  16. greghouser writes:

    Alabama is the bestest.

  17. Davidkumler writes:

    I’m hung like Donkey Kong.

    Alabama.

  18. LaLa Fever writes:

    Alabama and Alabama.

  19. Kelly Barson writes:

    Vermont College!!! It’s where all the superstars train! Go team VCFA! Write on!!!

  20. Friedrich writes:

    Alabama for the win! RMFT

  21. Sam writes:

    University of Washington, because it’s so rainy in Seattle that we just deserve it, damn it.

  22. J writes:

    McNeese. Great program, and all the gumbo, boudin, and crawfish you can eat.

  23. Bill writes:

    McNeese State!

  24. Joyce Ray writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!

  25. Cindy Patten Van Voorhis writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts

  26. P. J. writes:

    Alabama. RTR

  27. Detrick Hughes writes:

    Ashland University

  28. J. Michael Martinez writes:

    George Mason

  29. Rachael writes:

    George Mason! And also UNCW – my undergrad!

  30. Rachael Lyon writes:

    George Mason!

  31. Rachel writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!

  32. Laura writes:

    VCFA! Because I don’t know how I survived so long without it.

  33. Big Al writes:

    Alabama forever. RTR

  34. kara oakleaf writes:

    george mason!!

  35. Steph F. writes:

    Vermont! Vermont! Vermont!

  36. Jan Rider Newman writes:
  37. Rachel Wilson writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!

  38. Becky writes:

    George Mason!!! Telling you, the BEST!

    • Becky writes:

      Our basketball team did make it to the final four while I was in the program there, totally out of nowhere. Going all the way this time.

  39. Anna Joy Springer writes:

    I’d pit UCSD against Brown and CalArts for experimental, heady programs, if we all weren’t such good friends.

    • Bill writes:

      They lost in the early rounds… Don’t sell yourself short! Experimental and heady–that’s two extra points.

  40. matt writes:
  41. Susan Ryan-Nelson writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!!!

  42. Kurt Caswell writes:

    I vote for Vermont College of Fine Arts!

  43. Your Mother writes:

    George Mason because those jerks from Iowa are always coming out on top.

  44. Jessica writes:
  45. Hugo Hackenbush writes:
  46. Molly writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts, of course!

  47. John Berryman writes:

    MASON: my vote, & Henry’s. My year-long teaching appointment at Iowa was not a good position to be in. If I had to do the whole thing over again I wouldn’t.

  48. mary writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts all the way!

    • Tim Wynne-Jones writes:

      There is no question: VCFA rules. Just look at the publishing record of our grads! but more importantly, look at the quality of those publications: award winners on every side.

  49. Brendan writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts.

    And some secondary love to Alabama.

  50. George Mason writes:

    I vote for myself.