Guest contributor: Bill and Dave

The Sweet Sixteen! Here They are…the Best Writin’ Schools in the Country

categories: Cocktail Hour

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Here it is, folks.  You voted and your vote counts.  And now we ask you to vote again on the comments page of this post.  Only one vote per person per school this round please.  But if you like you can vote for two schools, yours and another.  This next round of voting will determine the final 2!  Because how long can we really keep this up?

Observant fans will note that some of the results make no sense.  Teams won that were never in the bracket, teams lost and then reappeared elsewhere, etc… Well, what can we say?  In the spirit of Seth Abramson, we have decided to follow a logic all our own.  (And we wanted to make sure that the top 16 vote getters made it in.)

For more about the match-ups and to vote, keep going:

Iowa vs. George Mason

The top-seeded Iowa barely squeaked by a scrappy Florida Atlantic squad, and now face the write-in George Mason, the Washington, D.C. upstart, and their hordes of rabid fans.

Arizona vs. Arizona State

This in-state rivalry is getting ugly.  And bloody.  The two battled to a virtual tie in the first round, inspiring us to throw out the rules and pit them against each other again in the Sweet Sixteen.  Sheriff Arpaio, where are you?

Penn State vs. Alabama

Who doesn’t love plucky Penn State, fighting on valiantly even though their program is going into the crapper?  Meanwhile Alabama dominated the early rounds, the Tide garnering more votes, and rah-rah spirit, than any other school.  They also used the word “dick” a lot.  Does that mean that they are the country’s best writing school?  You decide.

The New School vs. San Diego State

The New School surprised everyone by digging in for tough wins, even with the crowd chanting “What’s so new about you, what’s so new about you, you were founded in 1919, boo-hoo!”  Their curious alliance with The Ohio State University team (it’s the THE, said retiring great OSU coach Lee K. Abbott) no doubt helped their game.  San Diego State, no article to speak of, came out of nowhere to dominate, and only the one incident to mar their performance.  You know what I’m talking about, Staties.  Also, our niece Rosalie (yes, Bill and Dave’s is an uncle, and many times over), attends SDSU as an undergrad, really our only chance at some nepotism here.

Vermont College vs. Goddard

From the land of Saint Bernie Sanders, also gods Ben and Jerry, a blistering rivalry between two fine low-res programs in the Green Mountain State.  But fans have found that low-res means hi-intensity!  Brother against brother, sister against sister, this stands to be one of the fiercest face-offs of the century.  And folks, that’s twelve whole years!

Virginia Tech vs. Ashland
Tiny Ashland is winning hearts all over the country, dominating from its rusty berth in post-industrial northern Ohio.  But the bigger, if equally lovable, Virginia Tech, might be sending Cinderella home in a pumpkin driven by rats.

UNCW vs. THE Ohio State University
It’s true that UNCW has the homecourt advantage here, but their performance in the first rounds was tepid.  Now they’ll set out to prove they deserve the name THE University of North Carolina at Wilmington.  And let us not forget where Bill taught for many years: Ohio State.  Can Cocktail Hour survive the strain?

Bowling Green vs. McNeese State

Eleven votes apiece?  That’s a solid matchup.  We suspected some hanging chads on this one, and sure enough, the vote-counting mainframe didn’t know what BGSU stood for.  But what fight from an underlooked organization, and a PhD program too.  Can we talk about McNeese?  There’s no state called McNeese, unless maybe it’s in Ireland!  But coaches Fleury and Taylor have built from the brilliant success of John Wood, and after 30 years in the biz, the McNeese squad rules.   Oh.  Okay.  This just in.  McNeese State is in Louisiana.

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  1. Norad writes:

    U of Arizona. Those others can keep Arpaio.

  2. Katie writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts! Hoo-wah!

  3. jessica writes:

    vermont college of fine arts!!!

  4. Ashleymc writes:
  5. Vanessa Bray writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!! The BEST of the BEST!!

  6. Miciah writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!!!

  7. Michael Martone writes:
  8. Denise MacMartin writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!

  9. Jeff writes:

    Arizona State, natch.

  10. Marqueshia writes:

    Arizona State and Penn State please!

  11. Shaindel writes:
  12. SaSS writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts! 🙂

  13. Dawn writes:

    VCFA–Vermont College. No question about it.

  14. Michael writes:

    Ohio State and Arizona

  15. Zippy writes:

    RMFT. If it’s a championship, Alabama owns it.

    • Bill writes:

      Royal Mounted Feather Ticklers?

    • Indigo writes:

      While we’re not busy snagging best PR school in the country, top teaching school in the country, football national championships, gymnastics national championships, and all kins of other fun stuff, clearly we’re a dominating writing school as well. You know who I mean: THE University of Alabama, all the way.

      And can I give “The New School” negative votes, just for being named that? Kthnx.

      • Bill writes:

        If you check the Bill and Dave’s MFA writing tourney manifesto sub-clause 354b you’ll see that any insult is counted as a vote. Chalk one up for THE New School.

  16. Jessica writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts!

  17. Zippy writes:

    RMFT. Alabama owns championships.

  18. Carol Wood writes:
  19. Rimas Blekaitis writes:

    Vermont College hands down and no packets dropped

  20. Christy Bailey writes:

    Vermont College, of course!

  21. Kim writes:

    Vermont College! The bell tower is (or was) haunted by the ghost of a jilted young woman… how can you beat that? Oh, and the program is good too.

  22. Leslie writes:
  23. Sophfronia Scott writes:

    VER-MONT! VER-MONT! VER-MONT! VER-MONT!

  24. Josh Wilker writes:

    Vermont College

  25. Samara writes:
  26. Brian writes:

    ASU. That’s not an opinion, that’s science.

  27. PINHO writes:

    It’s pretty obvious that Tuscaloosa Runs This. (Alabama)

  28. John Slinka writes:

    Vermont College!

  29. Robin writes:

    Vermont College all the way!

  30. William Nericcio writes:

    Your bracket shows NOT SDSU, San Diego State University, but UCSD, the University of California, San Diego–while they have a fine and upstanding (and incipient) MFA, it is SDSU that rules the West and beyond!

    In short:

    SDSU ≠ UCSD

    SDSU > UCSD (and, the New School)…

    • Bill writes:

      Hey, anything in San Diego, including the Navy, we’ll count as a vote for SDSU or UCSD. Bill and Dave are flummoxed!

      • Ryan writes:

        Ooh! In that case, I change my vote. Since the rules allow me to vote for 2 program–mine and one other–I vote for San Diego State and UC-San Diego.

  31. Allyson writes:

    Arizona State! No contest.

  32. Scott Thomason writes:

    Some say McNeese is a graduate creative writing program. Others say it is a dojo training the assassins of Bowling Green’s tournament chances.

    McNeese rules.

  33. Rachel writes:

    Arizona State, obviously. OBVIOUSLY.

  34. Jodi Paloni writes:

    VCFA ~ Vermont College, hands-down, is the best! Did I get the comma use right?

  35. LAP writes:

    San Diego State!!! But why does the chart say UCSD and the competition mention SDSU? Very confusing. Conspiracy theorists?

    • Bill writes:

      Bill and Dave’s says: San Diego is San Diego! All votes go to, well, whatever Seth Abromson tells us to do!

  36. Steven Barrie writes:

    BGSU! Forward Falcons!

  37. Bobbi Miller writes:

    Vermont College!

  38. David Jauss writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts, hands and feet down.

  39. Jeanne Gassman writes:

    Vermont College of Fine Arts rules!

  40. Susan Solomon writes:

    As the editor of an online literary journal, my vote goes to Vermont College. I receive the best short story submissions, hands down, from Vermont College.

  41. b! writes:
  42. Greg writes:
  43. MEK writes:

    VERMONT, VERMONT, VERMONT!

  44. Glenn House, Sr. writes:

    Alabama, home of the Rammer Jammer and the Yallar Hammer.

  45. MaryKatherine writes:

    Ohio State. Duh.

  46. Danny writes:

    Mason vs. Iowa. I actually had to make that choice.

    I chose Mason then. I’ll back ’em now.

    • Dave writes:

      Do the people who go there call it “Mason”? That’s badass. I vote for them. And UNCW.

  47. Cheryl writes:

    Vermont College!

  48. Rams writes:

    Virginia Tech — fer cryin’ out loud, they’ve got Hicok!

  49. Adrienne writes:

    Arizona State!