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	<title>Comments on: The Rise of the Machines:  Notes on the Literary Apocalypse</title>
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	<description>Raise a glass to the lost arts of reading, writing, and drinking.</description>
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		<title>By: Steven Stafford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Stafford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. And it also--and I know I&#039;ve mentioned this before--like a dark night of the soul, purifies your motives. If you write just so you can impress your ex-girlfriend, this kind of thing should snap you out of it. But if you write &quot;for the love of the game,&quot; you won&#039;t care that no one notices you. 

We write for the love of the game. Although I wouldn&#039;t mind impressing my ex-girlfriends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. And it also&#8211;and I know I&#8217;ve mentioned this before&#8211;like a dark night of the soul, purifies your motives. If you write just so you can impress your ex-girlfriend, this kind of thing should snap you out of it. But if you write &#8220;for the love of the game,&#8221; you won&#8217;t care that no one notices you. </p>
<p>We write for the love of the game. Although I wouldn&#8217;t mind impressing my ex-girlfriends.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Stahlecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Stahlecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed this reality check. As the late great Frank Zappa might have implied, &quot;we need a Tinseltown rebellion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed this reality check. As the late great Frank Zappa might have implied, &#8220;we need a Tinseltown rebellion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, and it can be freeing, too.  Glad to hear you&#039;re rolling along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, and it can be freeing, too.  Glad to hear you&#8217;re rolling along.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Stafford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Stafford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an apprentice, I&#039;m scared. But like you said, thinking about it doesn&#039;t help you write the book. I&#039;m going to keep writing anyway, even if nobody reads a word I write. I&#039;m having too much fun to stop!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an apprentice, I&#8217;m scared. But like you said, thinking about it doesn&#8217;t help you write the book. I&#8217;m going to keep writing anyway, even if nobody reads a word I write. I&#8217;m having too much fun to stop!</p>
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		<title>By: Mara Naselli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mara Naselli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the answer may be mutiny. Reject the idea that literature is dependent on New York. The New York publishing model is broken. So let’s imagine a new one.

Enterprising editors could decenter literary publishing away from New York and into intellectual, creative, and regional communities through non-profit publishing ventures. This could have several advantages: 
     (1) lower overhead; rent is cheaper in Chicago, Minneapolis, Omaha . . .
     (2) diversification of the dominant aesthetic, which has become distorted by unsustainable business models and meaningless measures of “success” (i.e., bookscan)
     (3) creation of sustainable creative communities of readers and writers while also pushing forward creative and intellectual debates (a market-driven model, by definition, is impotent on this count) 

There are some excellent examples of presses already doing this, and while it isn’t easy, those beacons are rich sources of new and surprising literature. Perhaps through developing these new communities (there’s no such thing as a “general” audience anymore, anyway), we can also find new ways to pay authors more directly. If the costs of production can go down through smaller scale production and new distribution channels, then perhaps we can afford to pay our authors a suitable price for their work.

It’s senseless anymore to depend on out-of-touch behemoths to support literary work. Large publishers no longer dominate the channels of distribution or marketing. Their once-strong advantage in production and inventory has also diminished. So why should they dominate literary taste?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the answer may be mutiny. Reject the idea that literature is dependent on New York. The New York publishing model is broken. So let’s imagine a new one.</p>
<p>Enterprising editors could decenter literary publishing away from New York and into intellectual, creative, and regional communities through non-profit publishing ventures. This could have several advantages:<br />
     (1) lower overhead; rent is cheaper in Chicago, Minneapolis, Omaha . . .<br />
     (2) diversification of the dominant aesthetic, which has become distorted by unsustainable business models and meaningless measures of “success” (i.e., bookscan)<br />
     (3) creation of sustainable creative communities of readers and writers while also pushing forward creative and intellectual debates (a market-driven model, by definition, is impotent on this count) </p>
<p>There are some excellent examples of presses already doing this, and while it isn’t easy, those beacons are rich sources of new and surprising literature. Perhaps through developing these new communities (there’s no such thing as a “general” audience anymore, anyway), we can also find new ways to pay authors more directly. If the costs of production can go down through smaller scale production and new distribution channels, then perhaps we can afford to pay our authors a suitable price for their work.</p>
<p>It’s senseless anymore to depend on out-of-touch behemoths to support literary work. Large publishers no longer dominate the channels of distribution or marketing. Their once-strong advantage in production and inventory has also diminished. So why should they dominate literary taste?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Taubert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Taubert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great read, David.  I would venture that aspiring writers need to look towards the business models that have been put in place by independent musicians in recent years.  The rise of the internet has crushed the writing world and the music world, while simultaneously creating brave new opportunities for the ambitious among us.  In the past, the relatively few publishers guarded the doors to these industries.  If they didn&#039;t promote you, no one knew your name...they were the only avenue to success.  You needed the sanction of the gatekeepers to sustain a creative-based life for yourself.  Now the gates have been knocked down.  Social media affords us all the opportunity to create and grow our networks of interested followers.  The newborn ease of self-publishing and internet distribution allow us to give attractive physical form to our creations.  Cream always rises.  If you&#039;re good at what you do...you will find your niche following.  The good news is, you can make a living from a niche following...this is what our musician friends have taught us.  With no need to pay for executive offices, senior editors, receptionists, janitors, and the like...we get to keep more of the profit made on each book.  In the music world, about 50 cents of each $15 CD went to the artist...under the new paradigm, about $11 of each $15 CD is profit to the artist.  You no longer need to go platinum to make a buck.  If you can find 3,000 people to buy your CD - you can make an honest living at it.  You may need to supplement with live shows and waiting tables at the local diner  2 or 3 days a week...but it can be done.  Our definition for success needs to change.  The old model -- million dollar book contracts -- was not sustainable.  We need to be happy, making a middle-class income, while given the opportunity to do what we feel passionate about.  We need to wear more shoes along the way.  We need to teach ourselves more skills.  We need to e the writer, editor, marketer, publicist distributor, etc...OK, maybe not the editor -- plenty of them are out of work and would probably love the freelance gig.  We need to be DIY and have an eye for detail.  We need to care about our fans, and interact with them.  It&#039;s more work than ever...but it can be done.  If we do it well, we still run just as much a chance at major success as we ever did in the past...which is, to say, minuscule.

We sell our books direct to our readers.  We freelance articles on mundane topics.  We freelance copy for local businesses.  We scrape by.  We make as much as we would if we worked at the dreaded &quot;real job&quot;.  But we&#039;re doing what we love. 

This model works especially well for regional literature about places people love.  I see authors self-publishing books about Sanibel Island with success...some people love Sanibel Island, they want to read about it when they&#039;re on vacation here, they want to read about it between their vacations here.  Local authors are writing fiction, setting it on Sanibel, and selling books as a result.  Even you, I love your writing, but I almost surely never would have heard your name if you hadn&#039;t written a book about Cape Cod -- that&#039;s what I was looking for when I bought Wild Rank Place.   I assume it would also work well for books on narrowly defined topics...topics with built in audiences.  Even when we do it ourselves, it&#039;s still about marketability and sales...we become the beancounters.  We rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read, David.  I would venture that aspiring writers need to look towards the business models that have been put in place by independent musicians in recent years.  The rise of the internet has crushed the writing world and the music world, while simultaneously creating brave new opportunities for the ambitious among us.  In the past, the relatively few publishers guarded the doors to these industries.  If they didn&#8217;t promote you, no one knew your name&#8230;they were the only avenue to success.  You needed the sanction of the gatekeepers to sustain a creative-based life for yourself.  Now the gates have been knocked down.  Social media affords us all the opportunity to create and grow our networks of interested followers.  The newborn ease of self-publishing and internet distribution allow us to give attractive physical form to our creations.  Cream always rises.  If you&#8217;re good at what you do&#8230;you will find your niche following.  The good news is, you can make a living from a niche following&#8230;this is what our musician friends have taught us.  With no need to pay for executive offices, senior editors, receptionists, janitors, and the like&#8230;we get to keep more of the profit made on each book.  In the music world, about 50 cents of each $15 CD went to the artist&#8230;under the new paradigm, about $11 of each $15 CD is profit to the artist.  You no longer need to go platinum to make a buck.  If you can find 3,000 people to buy your CD &#8211; you can make an honest living at it.  You may need to supplement with live shows and waiting tables at the local diner  2 or 3 days a week&#8230;but it can be done.  Our definition for success needs to change.  The old model &#8212; million dollar book contracts &#8212; was not sustainable.  We need to be happy, making a middle-class income, while given the opportunity to do what we feel passionate about.  We need to wear more shoes along the way.  We need to teach ourselves more skills.  We need to e the writer, editor, marketer, publicist distributor, etc&#8230;OK, maybe not the editor &#8212; plenty of them are out of work and would probably love the freelance gig.  We need to be DIY and have an eye for detail.  We need to care about our fans, and interact with them.  It&#8217;s more work than ever&#8230;but it can be done.  If we do it well, we still run just as much a chance at major success as we ever did in the past&#8230;which is, to say, minuscule.</p>
<p>We sell our books direct to our readers.  We freelance articles on mundane topics.  We freelance copy for local businesses.  We scrape by.  We make as much as we would if we worked at the dreaded &#8220;real job&#8221;.  But we&#8217;re doing what we love. </p>
<p>This model works especially well for regional literature about places people love.  I see authors self-publishing books about Sanibel Island with success&#8230;some people love Sanibel Island, they want to read about it when they&#8217;re on vacation here, they want to read about it between their vacations here.  Local authors are writing fiction, setting it on Sanibel, and selling books as a result.  Even you, I love your writing, but I almost surely never would have heard your name if you hadn&#8217;t written a book about Cape Cod &#8212; that&#8217;s what I was looking for when I bought Wild Rank Place.   I assume it would also work well for books on narrowly defined topics&#8230;topics with built in audiences.  Even when we do it ourselves, it&#8217;s still about marketability and sales&#8230;we become the beancounters.  We rule.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m neither a polyanna nor a cassandra, no more than I like being a devil&#039;s advocate for the sake of mere opposition or contention. What I am, I fancy, is a synthesist, a humanist secularly. I understand bin Laden&#039;s motivations. He wants to be emperor--caliph--of the Muslim world and force his Sharia law views on the globe. He came out like that because of traumatic, alienating, and reactionary childhood influences. Because I understand his motivations doesn&#039;t mean I agree with them or condone them, quite the opposite. From childhood traumas monsters are made.

The publishing industry is an industry, a multicultural agglomerate of business and cultural practices determined to make a profit. The Big Six Sisters do surprisingly well at what they do best, provide a mass appeal product at as low a cost as fractions of percentage points profits allow. That&#039;s the big box commercial paradigm. Large volume, low cost, low per unit profit, economy of scale. High-concept content has wider commercial appeal than low-concept content. High-concept is more widely audience accessible from being superficial.

Aristotle bemoaned the rise of high-concept spectacle&#039;s appeal to the masses, wondered about the future of dramatic poetry in a mob-driven entertainment marketplace. Oral poetry replaced orational debate arts--the Attic Orators--in cultural preeminence before Aristotle&#039;s time. In his time dramatic poetry was ascendent, supplanting epic and lyric poetry. Stage play narratives based on planned, written scripts soon ascended into preeminence and dominated for a millenia before moveable type placed written narratives within reach of everyday masses. The novel became ascendent, not really achieving preeminence over stage plays until the introduction of trade and mass market paperbacks in the early Twentieth century, right before being superceded by screenplays. All to brief a time by any standard. Meanwhile, folklore traditions have been holding their own on every front since the dawn of language.

Poetry all but vanished except in insular cultural circles. Technology is reinvigorating poetry as a commercially viable culture. More and more poetry Web sites are popping up, publishing poetry, discussing poetry, promoting poetry. Sad but true, poetry reading is an acquired skill, one that&#039;s all but forgotten, but on the rebound due to the Internet. If the way of literary literature is the way of poetry, so be it. It&#039;s not as dark as all that. There&#039;s emerging outlets that will preserve and reinvigorate the ways of the poet.

Also sad but true, reading in general is an acquired skill that requires self-commitment to move beyond simple literacy. Most readers won&#039;t acquire advanced reading abilities until late in college, if ever. The sort of reading skills needed to reasonablly appreciate literary literature are not commonly developed in a population, maybe about a couple hundred thousand readers out of three hundred million people, maybe at least one percent. The norm is seventh grade reading ability. Government laws for medicine packaging, roadway signs, and general safety content require fourth grade reading level ability.

It&#039;s all part of a greater machine known as culture, as much a technological progress trap as humanity&#039;s mastering fire. Fire users enjoyed a higher standard of living than cold campers, but cold campers got burned less often and didn&#039;t suffer from smoke-blackened lungs. Compromise and trade off. Publishers make compromises and trade offs, like favoring commercial viability over artistic appeal.

I&#039;ve been surveying arts and crafts shows, galleries, and municipal events like state fairs and regional festivals for years. There&#039;s been a steady state of participation and attendance since a major boom in the mid &#039;80s. Recently, attributable to the poor economic climate, there&#039;s been a resurgence of participation and attendance. One art show I participated in enjoyed a five hundred percent participant increase and a two hundred percent attendance increase this last year. (I won my first ever art award, and sold the winner, too, in a more competitive environment than I expected and was tickled that I won under such fierce competition. It wasn&#039;t a best in show winner category, but second best.)

Duotrope.com has virtually replaced the Writer&#039;s Digest guide to digest publications. They track three thousand digests. There&#039;s at least another fifteen hundred that don&#039;t meet Duotrope&#039;s criteria, like having a digest Web site and no reading fees charged for general submissions. &lt;i&gt;Ecotone&lt;/i&gt; is indexed at Duotrope, for example. One machine is replaced by another machine. 

To my humanist way of thinking, the publishing marketplace is like life, an ever-shifting chiasoscuro lagoon of treacherous shadow and light dappled reefs and shallows and deeps and shorelines and beachheads. The future I see for publishing is the big sisters do their thing, the big brothers do their thing. We who sit on the porch with the big dogs sit watching, waiting, contributing to the dialogue as best we can, and get off the porch and run with the wolves and sheep and feral dogs and rabbits when we can, when we want to, and have our own kind of whatever fun wherever it may take us. The publishing marketplace is a many splendored miasma. The machine is now so many more tentacled arms and wisps of potentiality than it&#039;s ever been. And it&#039;s as alive as humanity makes it, sentience and sentiment-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m neither a polyanna nor a cassandra, no more than I like being a devil&#8217;s advocate for the sake of mere opposition or contention. What I am, I fancy, is a synthesist, a humanist secularly. I understand bin Laden&#8217;s motivations. He wants to be emperor&#8211;caliph&#8211;of the Muslim world and force his Sharia law views on the globe. He came out like that because of traumatic, alienating, and reactionary childhood influences. Because I understand his motivations doesn&#8217;t mean I agree with them or condone them, quite the opposite. From childhood traumas monsters are made.</p>
<p>The publishing industry is an industry, a multicultural agglomerate of business and cultural practices determined to make a profit. The Big Six Sisters do surprisingly well at what they do best, provide a mass appeal product at as low a cost as fractions of percentage points profits allow. That&#8217;s the big box commercial paradigm. Large volume, low cost, low per unit profit, economy of scale. High-concept content has wider commercial appeal than low-concept content. High-concept is more widely audience accessible from being superficial.</p>
<p>Aristotle bemoaned the rise of high-concept spectacle&#8217;s appeal to the masses, wondered about the future of dramatic poetry in a mob-driven entertainment marketplace. Oral poetry replaced orational debate arts&#8211;the Attic Orators&#8211;in cultural preeminence before Aristotle&#8217;s time. In his time dramatic poetry was ascendent, supplanting epic and lyric poetry. Stage play narratives based on planned, written scripts soon ascended into preeminence and dominated for a millenia before moveable type placed written narratives within reach of everyday masses. The novel became ascendent, not really achieving preeminence over stage plays until the introduction of trade and mass market paperbacks in the early Twentieth century, right before being superceded by screenplays. All to brief a time by any standard. Meanwhile, folklore traditions have been holding their own on every front since the dawn of language.</p>
<p>Poetry all but vanished except in insular cultural circles. Technology is reinvigorating poetry as a commercially viable culture. More and more poetry Web sites are popping up, publishing poetry, discussing poetry, promoting poetry. Sad but true, poetry reading is an acquired skill, one that&#8217;s all but forgotten, but on the rebound due to the Internet. If the way of literary literature is the way of poetry, so be it. It&#8217;s not as dark as all that. There&#8217;s emerging outlets that will preserve and reinvigorate the ways of the poet.</p>
<p>Also sad but true, reading in general is an acquired skill that requires self-commitment to move beyond simple literacy. Most readers won&#8217;t acquire advanced reading abilities until late in college, if ever. The sort of reading skills needed to reasonablly appreciate literary literature are not commonly developed in a population, maybe about a couple hundred thousand readers out of three hundred million people, maybe at least one percent. The norm is seventh grade reading ability. Government laws for medicine packaging, roadway signs, and general safety content require fourth grade reading level ability.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all part of a greater machine known as culture, as much a technological progress trap as humanity&#8217;s mastering fire. Fire users enjoyed a higher standard of living than cold campers, but cold campers got burned less often and didn&#8217;t suffer from smoke-blackened lungs. Compromise and trade off. Publishers make compromises and trade offs, like favoring commercial viability over artistic appeal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been surveying arts and crafts shows, galleries, and municipal events like state fairs and regional festivals for years. There&#8217;s been a steady state of participation and attendance since a major boom in the mid &#8217;80s. Recently, attributable to the poor economic climate, there&#8217;s been a resurgence of participation and attendance. One art show I participated in enjoyed a five hundred percent participant increase and a two hundred percent attendance increase this last year. (I won my first ever art award, and sold the winner, too, in a more competitive environment than I expected and was tickled that I won under such fierce competition. It wasn&#8217;t a best in show winner category, but second best.)</p>
<p>Duotrope.com has virtually replaced the Writer&#8217;s Digest guide to digest publications. They track three thousand digests. There&#8217;s at least another fifteen hundred that don&#8217;t meet Duotrope&#8217;s criteria, like having a digest Web site and no reading fees charged for general submissions. <i>Ecotone</i> is indexed at Duotrope, for example. One machine is replaced by another machine. </p>
<p>To my humanist way of thinking, the publishing marketplace is like life, an ever-shifting chiasoscuro lagoon of treacherous shadow and light dappled reefs and shallows and deeps and shorelines and beachheads. The future I see for publishing is the big sisters do their thing, the big brothers do their thing. We who sit on the porch with the big dogs sit watching, waiting, contributing to the dialogue as best we can, and get off the porch and run with the wolves and sheep and feral dogs and rabbits when we can, when we want to, and have our own kind of whatever fun wherever it may take us. The publishing marketplace is a many splendored miasma. The machine is now so many more tentacled arms and wisps of potentiality than it&#8217;s ever been. And it&#8217;s as alive as humanity makes it, sentience and sentiment-wise.</p>
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